Should a country change it's ways for new immigrants?

Muffin · Client Joined: Apr 10, 2004 Posts: 649 Location: UK

Well I can't post links regards the monies paid, spoke to my friend in DWP and obviously he can't leak anything or he'd risk getting fired, same with my friend at Social Services.

The country has gone to pot, and the stupid government policies are pushing a lot of people into voting BNP.

I'm voting either Tory or the new UK party, but if I vote for the UK party it'll be a wasted vote until we get our voting system sorted. Its so unfair the way it is at the moment, why they dont bring in proportional representation I don't know. Well I do, it's to keep the 2 major parties in power. Shocked

Sorry for stirring up a hornets nest. I just think that Britons are treated unfairly compared to anyone who decides to come and live here.

I think Enoch Powel had the right idea in the 60's, but he was soon pushed into oblivion.

minx · Client Joined: Dec 25, 2003 Posts: 16

Muffin your first link is over two years old, and doesnt back up your original claims.. In fact it was meant to apply to AS in hostels...now why would AS be in hostels if everyone of them has their own home?

Your second link is also over two years old, and yet again does not back up the claims you made earlier in this thread.

Same for third link...over two years old and fails to back up your claims.

Your next two links come from a site with no accredited sources..again they dont back up your claims.

Your last link comes from the BNP, do you honestly expect anyone who isnt a racist to give them credence? For those in other countries, the BNP is akin to the KKK..they despise non whites and wont allow them to join their party.

As for your first links from the Daily Mail...remember this is the newspaper that previously ran a campaign to keep refugess out of the UK...those refugees where Jews fleeing from Nazism

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HauntedWebby · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:31 am

Ok I'm stepping in here. Remember the rules folks. You can disagree with people. But if you find false or misleading information, prove it .. Just saying it's wrong or the source is lying is not good enough. I want to see prof of the challenge.

I'm leaving the BNP part. Just because a publication is put out by a racist and/or bias group does not instantly mean all the information is false. Example. Atheists in a debate can say any reference to the Bible is instantly null because they don't believe in it and the group that uses it's information is bias.

If links are out of date, instead of just saying that it's old .. post a new one. Remember you can't win a debate unless you enlighten everyone.

Cheers

Now back to your regularly scheduled program Cool

HauntedWebby · Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:40 am

Ok I need a little clarification here. Why do you call your immigrants asylum seekers? I mean if I wanted to live in Britain I wouldn't do it because I wanted asylum from anything.

Muffin · Client Joined: Apr 10, 2004 Posts: 649 Location: UK

I've decided not to debate it any further because I just keep getting flamed, ok the links were old, but how on earth can you post links to government department white papers and social services classified papers on a public forum without getting arrested ? And I can't force people who have given me the information to come here and say it's true.

I dont' want a fight, and I dont want to stay away from this site because up til now I've been made to feel at home and not stupid if I ask a question on coding that I dont understand.

So let's call it a day Minx, believe what you want to believe and I'll believe what I'm told by friends of mine and what I see with my own eyes. That way we won't fall out with each other.

HauntedWebby we only call people who leave countries where their lives are at risk if they stay there come here to live as a safe haven.
(and there are some whose lives arent at risk but say they are just to get in the country)
Normal immigrants, ie; people who choose to want to move here because they like it or think it's better than their native country we still call immigrants.

Raven · Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:06 pm

Glad to see you Muffin! Folks, I think enough has been said here. I am locking this one. HW, feel free to override as you see fit.

HauntedWebby · Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 9:12 am

I'd agree with you Raven. The thread wasn't going anyware contructive. I will PM'ing a couple of people because I do have a couple of questions. I hope they don't mind Smile

On to the next subject!