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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
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Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:42 pm |
 
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It seems as though that all peeps that register with either yahoo, msn, aol, or hotmail are not receiving the email to activate their account.
I know for a fact that Yahoo filters it and puts this email in the bulk email. Most people won't check there.
My guess is the subject line. "New User Account Activation"
Or the fact that it shows the sender as an email address rather than a Person.
Is there a way to change that to say something else? I can't find the conf for it.
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Raven
Site Admin/Owner
Joined: Aug 27, 2002
Posts: 14925
Location: Kansas
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Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:47 pm |
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Edit /modules/Your_Account/language/lang-english.php and modify this line
define("_ACTIVATIONSUB","New User Account Activation");
It should be at or near the bottom. |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:09 pm |
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It still is going into my Yahoo bulk email. Is there a way to give the sender a name rather than just showing the email address? |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:06 am |
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so...any clue?
Why they goto spam or bulk email and how to fix it? |
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Nukeum66
Life Cycles Becoming CPU Cycles
Joined: Jul 30, 2003
Posts: 546
Location: Neurotic, State, USA
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Fri Jan 30, 2004 6:23 am |
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Have you check to see if or host is on a spam list?
Yahoo filters to the bulk folder, Hotmail, MSN, and AOL block the mail completely. I had an issue like this on a free host server once, Good Old Breezeland.com ! |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 3:27 pm |
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Here's the scoop:
I setup another site, different name, but the same thing. On the same server, both using the exact same settings. I register on both with my yahoo email and the old sends it to bulk email and the new sends it to regular email.
Any Ideas?
Version 6.9
PS: I did a few hacks to the old one, added flash, modified the forums for a different look. now when i go into the statistics page it shows up as version 7.0
I tested this from another test forum. the only thing that I can come up with is that I executed a data base that was originally from a 7.0 forum.
I wanted to revert back to 6.9 cause there are less bugs. But I couldn't loose that data. |
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Raven
Site Admin/Owner
Joined: Aug 27, 2002
Posts: 14925
Location: Kansas
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 4:12 pm |
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Just to be clear, nuke uses the standard PHP mail() function. It does not 'send' anything as bulk mail or regular mail. The receiving email server/host (Yahoo) is the one that determines how to handle it. 6.9 vs. 7.0 is not really the issue. There were no changes in the mail function between the two.
Have you compared the mail headers in the 2 messages that are addressed to the same Yahoo mail account? Therein, imo, will be the clues to the mystery. Please post the headers of the two messages if you'd like. |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:33 pm |
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Comes in Bulk email: 7.0
From Sat Jan 31 16:26:58 2004
X-Apparently-To: via 216.136.131.149; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:26:54 -0800
X-YahooFilteredBulk: 65.29.143.167
Return-Path: <apache@hncclan.pointclark.net>
Received: from 65.29.143.167 (EHLO hncclan.pointclark.net) (65.29.143.167) by mta452.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:26:54 -0800
Received: by hncclan.pointclark.net (Postfix, from userid 4 id 8AB082C043; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:26:58 -0500 (EST)
To:
Subject: {HNC} Clan Website
From: Add to Address Book
X-Mailer: PHP/4.2.2
Message-Id: <20040201002658.8AB082C043@hncclan.pointclark.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:26:58 -0500 (EST)
Content-Length: 586
Comes in normal email: 6.9
From Sat Jan 31 16:26:37 2004
X-Apparently-To: via 216.136.131.151; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:26:33 -0800
Return-Path: <apache@hncclan.pointclark.net>
Received: from 65.29.143.167 (EHLO hncclan.pointclark.net) (65.29.143.167) by mta223.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 16:26:33 -0800
Received: by hncclan.pointclark.net (Postfix, from userid 4 id E269E2C043; Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:26:37 -0500 (EST)
To:
Subject: New User Account Activation
From: Add to Address Book
X-Mailer: PHP/4.2.2
Message-Id: <20040201002637.E269E2C043@hncclan.pointclark.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2004 19:26:37 -0500 (EST)
Content-Length: 589 |
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Raven
Site Admin/Owner
Joined: Aug 27, 2002
Posts: 14925
Location: Kansas
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:04 pm |
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It looks as if the subject is the only thing different. Just as a test, change the subject back to New User Account Activation to see if that is the issue. |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:12 pm |
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It's not the issue, that's why it's changed, I thought that might make a difference. |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:19 pm |
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Ok, It definatly has something to do with using the *.sql file from version 7.0.
I just exececuted it from a backup of my other forum and the mail now goes to the bulk email.
It also shows up as being version 7.0 in the stats menu now that I made the database change. |
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Raven
Site Admin/Owner
Joined: Aug 27, 2002
Posts: 14925
Location: Kansas
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:37 pm |
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I'm not fully understanding what changes you have made to your system. I have taken a 6.5 site and upgraded it to 7.0 on 2 customer's sites and they are not having any issues. I tested it on my own test server from 6.5 to 7.0 and there is no problem. I would guess that it has to do with files and not database tables as the tables are just a repository of data. Like I said, I'm probably just not understanding what you are trying to explain. |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:01 pm |
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I fixed it: 
Here's what I changed. I exported the nuke_config from the 6.9 and the 7.0 version to see the differences, here they are:
7.0
'Your account', -1, 'modules/WebMail/images', 1, 1, 1, 1, 1000, 3, '*****', 'Web site engine code is Copyright © 2003 by <a href="http://phpnuke.org"><font class="footmsg_l">PHP-Nuke</font></a>. All Rights Reserved. PHP-Nuke is Free Software released under the <a href="http://www.gnu.org"><font class="footmsg_l">GNU/GPL license</font></a>.', '7.0');
6.9
'Your account', -1, 'modules/WebMail/images', 1, 0, 1, 1, 1000, 3, '*****', 'Web site engine\'s code is Copyright © 2003 by <a href="http://phpnuke.org"><font class="footmsg_l">PHP-Nuke</font></a>. All Rights Reserved. PHP-Nuke is Free Software released under the <a href="http://www.gnu.org"><font class="footmsg_l">GNU/GPL license</font></a>.', '6.9');
I changed the 1,1,1,1,1000 to 1,0,1,1,1000. I also chnged the version # cause I know it was 6.9 when I started. For some reason that made the difference from sending to normal email rather than the bulk. Don't ask me why this worked, but it did. I just hope it doesn't cause a problem else where.
Thanks for all the fast replies and the input to help me think and figure this out Raven.
Koodos |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:08 pm |
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If I could ask the help of other users...
If you have an aol, hotmail or msn account. Would you try to register at and reply to the email that you get to let me now that it worked and if you want me to delete your registration.
For those who try and get no verification email please contact me at
Thanks to all who resopnd to this post!!
This message will self destruct in 3 days!! |
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Raven
Site Admin/Owner
Joined: Aug 27, 2002
Posts: 14925
Location: Kansas
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 8:22 pm |
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nuke_config ? That is not the layout to the nuke_config table. |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:12 pm |
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it is a data and structure dump of the nuke_config table done with phpmyadmin. |
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Raven
Site Admin/Owner
Joined: Aug 27, 2002
Posts: 14925
Location: Kansas
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:23 pm |
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You only showed a part of the dump! That's what was so confusing. The one number you changed is simply the Moderate flag. Shouldn't have anything to do with anything. But, if it works for you then that's all that counts. |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Sat Jan 31, 2004 9:29 pm |
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Sorry for the confusion.
Weird thing that a moderate flag changed it all. |
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donjski
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Joined: Jan 14, 2004
Posts: 53
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Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:35 pm |
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Hello,
I am having this same problem again. I am running phpnuke 7.2 now. I have tried everything above with no help this time.
I wonder if the emails are being put into bulk mail cause there is no name with the activation email. It just shows my emaill address.
I have tried different email addresses also, still with no luck.
It seems to only be effected by AOL, Yahoo and Hotmail accounts.
Has anyone run into this and found a fix?
I don't want the activation hack without email verification. Besides I can't get it to work with 7,2 either. |
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