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icequeen
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I am not sure if this is the spot to post this so forgive me.

I currently have php-nuke 7.6 and would like to switch to the Raven edition of 7.6 without having to rebuild my entire site. I am also running some custom blocks and NukeSentinel(tm) 2.4.2pl5.

I have installed a version of Raven's 7.6 v2.02 Full on a test site to check the features. I like the added features and updated phpbb forums, but don't want to lose 2 years worth of data.

Is there an upgrade or a set of conversion files I could get?
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

well have you tried to point the old database towards the ravennuke version?
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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I just "completed" this task late this afternoon and am holding my breath. Every situation is unique and I don't know how they could ever develop a standard set of "conversion" files. It just depends on what you are running presently and what you want to preserve and how the structures match.

I found space on my server for an entirely parallel database and set of files in the new format and did one test conversion so I had a Raven Nuke and a 7.6 version running parallel. I invited users to test for a couple weeks and finally pulled the plug today.

One last thing that I didn't think of until the last minute; your Sentinel has a file that has a site shut down message and you'll want to edit it to point to the new site before you finally shut down. Not a good time to be fumbling with that when you are finally shutting down.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I haven't tried to point anything anywhere... I was really concerned about table structure mainly. I can load the new site and then install the information from the current database, I just wanted to make sure the table structure was the same.


Second post. I will check it out...
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 3:51 am Reply with quote Back to top

well i mean ,since your already on the 7.6 it could be worth while just pointing your config file of the older nuke towards the new nuke...
basically its the same,maybe a forum upgrade but you can try..
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:22 am Reply with quote Back to top

icequeen, the structure is very close. If you look in the file INSTALLATION/sql/rn76_nsngroups.sql, it shows you which additional fields are added where, so you may need to just run those SQL if you do not already have NSN Groups installed on your existing nuk76 database. Nuke Sentinel should need no changes. Take a look at fkelly's thread as you may have slight issues with the phpBB (forums) unless your site is also already at the 2.0.20 version level there.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

I have upgraded my original site with the phpBB 2.0.20 version, so other than some custom blocks, which I will test out first, I am going to give this a shot. I will let you all know how it goes. I will try to do the opposite and point the new nuke to the old database and see what comes up once all the custom stuff is loaded... If I can get away with connecting raven's nuke onto the old database, adding in the NSN stuff while leaving Sentinnel alone then I will have a means to upgrade without losing any data.


Wish me luck!
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:21 am Reply with quote Back to top

sure... good luck Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:28 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, I took a shot at this and guess what? It worked!! I just pointed the new config file to the old database and it all came up fine. The things that were missing were the custom block files and some images, but the forums looked good and the information was there, including all the admin stuff from the old site.

Now I have to do this on the original site... it's backup time!
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

yeah...good for you....sometimes i do have good ideas... killing me
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 5:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

icequeen, my hat is off to you, especially for keeping up on the latest versions of these tools so that it makes this extremely easy to do! However, please do not forget the NSN Groups part. You may run into an issue with installing your new modules/blocks. Here is my suggestion to you in terms of the steps to take, as you are in a unique position to do this:

1) Install a brand new RavenNuke76 installation and database, but SKIP the NSN Groups step (I believe it is Step 2 of the installSQL.php script.

2) Extract the data only from your previous nuke installation and load it into the new installation, resolving the few minor problems you may run into (they will be straightforward I think.

3) Then come back and apply the NSN Groups (Step 2- ONLY) to this database.

Be sure you try this out on the local test version first!!!

The reason I suggest this approach, as it is rather unconventional, is that you have a completely working, almost identical version with the database schemas almost exactly alike with the only execption being the NSN Groups altered tables for nuke_blocks, nuke_modules and nuke_messages. If you load all your data first, your fall-out should be next to nil and then you can add these changes after-the-fact.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:39 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, I will try that way, I totally botched the first attempt and got a blank white screen. I restored it to its previous version, so I will try again.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 9:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

thanks Montego, that seems to be working for me so far....now going about getting the custom blocks and mods to work correctly.....thanks again.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 2:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

My test site worked well. Now when I moved it to the main site, I get the following error message when I click on the following links, Private messages, Forums, and Memberlists:

phpBB : Critical Error

Could not get theme data for themes_id [2]

Did not get this on the test site, so I am thinking I have missed loading something up. Any ideas where to look?

Also when I go to the admin section and click on Forums the same message comes up.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

lol....ok I got the above fixed.....now for 2nd error found. When I click on the forums link in the admin area I get the following error:

phpBB : Critical Error

Could not open whatisreal template config file

DEBUG MODE

Line : 442
File : functions.php

I am using a different forum template than subsliver. It is called whatisreal. I can now see the memberslist, forums, and Private messages ok. just can't get into the forum admin area due to above error.
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 4:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well all I got was a blank page.... again.... having the site restored. Going to try installing the 3.1 patch files and see if I can get those to work. Then going to move to the raven version... getting bummed... Bang Head
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PostPosted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

LOL...this has been fun....finally got her corrected.....when in doubt, delete and re-install. Cool
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