FB did it again

Useless Joined: Aug 23, 2002 Posts: 213 Location: Chicago

Well if do believe what DJ says about him being banned on PHP-Nuke's site, it tells us that IP banner feature DOES work, like everything else has a way around, he is using proxies to reach the site.

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:04 pm

Mesum wrote:

Well if do believe what DJ says about him being banned on PHP-Nuke's site, it tells us that IP banner feature DOES work, like everything else has a way around, he is using proxies to reach the site.

I totally agree with you mesum that the ban works.

But why ban me ?
I only got annoyed after the ban.

And since he locked everything down i don't see any usefull point to go there anyway.
So admin feel free to delete my posts in here Wink

I've modified my HOSTS file so any call to phpnuke.org opens my site Razz

Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:22 pm

DJMaze wrote:

Mesum wrote:

Well if do believe what DJ says about him being banned on PHP-Nuke's site, it tells us that IP banner feature DOES work, like everything else has a way around, he is using proxies to reach the site.

I totally agree with you mesum that the ban works.

But why ban me ?

He's afraid you'll figure out a way to turn on features after he's disabled them all. lol

The last thing FB wants is anyone contributing.

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:59 pm

Hi all,

My name is Jordi Canals, and just came to this thread because I've seen some words from hitwalwer talking about me ...

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okay a few weird things....

that member Rodamon who wrote (on phpnuke.org)...NukeScripts violates PHP-Nuke GPL licensing....

So i thought ,who is he ?
Ok all it says is..

My HomePage: http://www.totsoft.com
All you get looking at whois , is that the registar of that domain is from spain...and likes to stay anonymous.
So i called my brother who lives in spain.

First of all, I have nothing to do with that guy called Rodamon. This guy is NOT me and have nothing to do with me. And, of course, I never had written anything at phpnuke.org.

Second, TotSoft.com is a domain from one of my customers. I just have registered this domain, host it, and made some developmet for it. So, it appears at whois as registered by me. I also think that the man who posted at phpnuke.org just has used the totsoft.com site as a fake entry (but that's only my opinion).

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So as he tries to find out who's behind the site he notices a name that pops up and is a guy named "Jordi Canals".

Yes, I am that guy: Jordi Canals. But I'm NOT that other guy you call Rodamon. Just want to say that in my country (Catalonia) my name is so common as John Smith in US.

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but not secret cause Jordi Canals has a few more websites.
One of them is http://www.jcanals.net

Yes, that is my website, and only that one. Other sites could be developed by me, but this don't make them my sites (just my development).

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His name pops up again with this..."Powered by Mirabolà 0.2.63 - Copyright © 2004 by Jordi Canals Partially based on PHP-Nuke."

So keeping " by Jordi Canals Partially based on PHP-Nuke" in mind you should see the cache and and you will agree that things look a like.
And "Partially based" on..... what does that mean ?

That's easy to explain: Partially based on PHP-Nuke, means just that: It uses some code from PHP-Nuke. So, I did two things: first to put a notice that those scripts use code from PHP-Nuke, and second: when I gave this scripts to my customers them where licensed as GPL. After that, are this customers who can decide if them want to release the work to the public (under the GPL license) or want to keep it for their private use.

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http://www.portalespirita.net
http://www.jcanals.net
http://www.akardec.org

As said before, only jcanals.net is my site. Other sites are not mine as I only made some developments for it (hosted and registered also).

So please, before talking about me, ask and get informed. You cannot thing that because a guy thet posts something have his site hosted and registered by me, and it uses some of my scripts ... then this guy have to be me: Sorry but not, This guy (Rodamon) is not me (Jordi Canals). I'm not related anyway to the post at phpnuke you are talking about, and finally, after reading the post (at phpnuke.org) I don't agree with it.

Just wanted to make it clear that confusion, and don't want to be releated in any form to this issue or this post at phpnuke.org.

Thanks to all for reading.
Jordi Canals

New Member Joined: Jul 29, 2003 Posts: 9

I think this should be a moral to the the story about buying into whois data without better verification.

Just my two cents Wink

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:41 am

The owner of a domainname is responsible for it.
You get attacked and the only thing you can do, is to blame it on your customer.

But who accepted the customer, and why didn't the customer purchase the domain himself ?

You also state you used pieces of PHP-Nuke to code your web-portal.
This is allowed but GPL also states we may have a copy of the sourcecode if we want.
So if i email jcanals for a copy he has to give it to me.

As jeruvy mentioned it's a moral to the story and again shows the lack of GPL knowledge while everyone keeps spamming about GPL.

/me still amazed why this topic pops-up after 3 months Laughing

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yeah i fully agree,it always makes me wonder why someone stats a website without owning the name...
usualy because because you can stay anonymous and only your host name appears on whois.

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:41 am

Hi all,

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You also state you used pieces of PHP-Nuke to code your web-portal.
This is allowed but GPL also states we may have a copy of the sourcecode if we want. So if i email jcanals for a copy he has to give it to me.

In my opinion, and following the GPL if you ask me for a copy of my scripts I have no obligation to give you them. The GPL license says that if i distribute my scripts to anyone, I have to give the binaries and the source code under the GPL license, but I'm free to distrubute or not my work. Also says the GPL thet I could ask for a fee for the program if I want. What the GPL says is: IF I distribute my program, I must release it under the terms of the GPL license, but I have no obligation to distribute it.

Anyway, I parked that project some time ago and never had gone to production level. If you ask for the scripts, you can get them, as they are hosted on the public CVS at Sourceforge: http://sf.net/projects/mirabola.

Just a comment to this:

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it always makes me wonder why someone stats a website without owning the name... usualy because because you can stay anonymous and only your host name appears on whois.

Ia gree with that. There are people that do not want to have their name and info published on whois. You can see that a lot of registrars ofer services to hide the whois Information and keep it anonymous. You know there is some paranoic people about their private info...

Best regards,
Jordi.

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:57 am

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The owner of a domainname is responsible for it. You get attacked and the only thing you can do, is to blame it on your customer.

Well, someone wrote my name here because on a post in a forum something said his home page was that domain. Nobody has any responsability when a guy goes to a forum and writes a false URL as their home page.

Following this comment and the previous post by hitwalker, If I go to any forum, I open an account and I write your URLs http://www.hitwalker.nl/phpx/html/index.php or http://www.cpgnuke.com/ as my home page, this means that you're responsible for anything I write on that forum? Of course not. If someone whent to phpnuke.org and wrote a false URL as their homepage, this does not make me responsible with anything he wrote there.

Just I said: I did not write never anything at phpnuke.org, and hitwalker said I've done because someone put a domain I own (for a customer use) as his homepage. Who's blaming here? Just I've been pointed as the author of a post I did not wrote, and want to make clear that I did not write that post, I never wrote anything at phpnuke.org and also, I do not agree with the post contents.

Best regards,
Jordi.

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:59 am

The point i made was not just about that post.
Think about spam mail comming from that server, now who gets sued ?

You can fake by saying the spam is comming from "nobody AT cpgnuke" but the IP will eventualy reveal it's your server.
Since the domain is registered on your name, you may guess who gets sued.

While you agreed to register the domain on your name, you agreed to solve these issues.
If you don't like that, then don't register domains on your name.
Also the person who you've had to contact was FB and say to him he had to remove that topic or atleast remove the references to your domain.
This topic is just a follow up.

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:03 am

that hurts...

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:07 am

Yes it does.
But that's always been the case if someone uses your name/website.
You have to talk to the owner of that website that your name/website is abused.

Then the website owner should fix it, or am i wrong ?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:11 am

no....
but i wouldnt spend more time or inkt on this topic....

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:17 am

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Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:22 am

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The point i made was not just about that post.
Think about spam mail comming from that server, now who gets sued ?

You can fake by saying the spam is comming from "nobody AT cpgnuke" but the IP will eventualy reveal it's your server.
Since the domain is registered on your name, you may guess who gets sued.

While you agreed to register the domain on your name, you agreed to solve these issues. If you don't like that, then don't register domains on your name. Also the person who you've had to contact was FB and say to him he had to remove that topic or atleast remove the references to your domain. This topic is just a follow up.

I first answered to the hitwalwer post. On that post him said that in the post to phpnuke.org the user says his home page is one of my hosted domains: Just that. No mail, no post go anywhere from my server in relation to that. Ths user that posted at phpnuke, did not use my servers anyway, and he did not send any mail by using my servers. Just posted a message saying that his home page is one .... and it is not. This info is never verified on that kind of sites.

What I wanted to say in my previous post is: If I go to cpgnuke (in example), and I register as user. If I write that my website is, i.e., ravenscripts ... and thet send an article and you publish it. I never used any server from raven ... but In my profile it says that my home page is ravenphpscripts.com .... Here raven has nothing to do, he did not post the article, and I did not use the raven servers.

What hitwalker did to relate me to the phpnuke post is: He saw a post from a guy, looked at their profile and found he says his home page is totsoft.com. Then he said: If that guy says his home page is totsoft.com, and this domain is registerd at my name: then this guy have to be me.

Sorry but things are not that way. If I sign up to a forum, and in the profile I enter your data this does not mind that you're writting the post. Just means that somebody, who says that his home page is cpgnuke wrote that article. Anybody can lie about the profile info on a site like phpnuke.org ...

I'm really disapointed being related to that post on phpnuke, as I did not write it, and as said, I did not agree with it. Just wanted to say to you that the guy who posted it just said that his homepage was one of the domains registered at my name. As I repeted before, this only means that: that guy says his homepage is that domain: nothing else, nothing more.

Looks like to me that you don't want to understand that and you continue saying: If that guy says his home page is one of my domains, then sure this guy is me. Of course you're free to think what you want, but before saying that someone did something, you have to be sure he really did, and you have to demonstrate it with irrefutable arguments.

People who knows me, knows that I always post with the nick I'm using to post here, knows that I always sign my post, and knows that I never would write something like the post at phpnuke who started this thread.

I'm a person who likes to participate in diferent projects, help anybody who asks, and don't like to say if somebody is doing bad things. I just think that there is a great community around lots of projects like yours at cpgnuke. To this people I only have to say thanks for making great projects and releasing them as Open Source giving all us the opportunity to freely use great software.

I don't know so much about laws and licenses, so I cannot speak about and I don't. If somebody asks to me, just can give my opinion, but that's just my opinion and can be wrong.

My last line just to keep open to you to talk (in private, as this is not related with this topic) about anything you want. Even if you ask for some help to code anything or to get any of my scripts you will get them.
But please, don't says again I've posted something I didn't. And specially when I don't agree with the post content

Here I've said all about this and I'll close this discussion. I said many times that I did not write that on the nuke site, and that I'm no related in any form with that post. Even I asked site's webmaster to remove the info pointing that post to the my registered domain.

Hope you can understand how disapointed I am about this and being related to that f***ing post. And hope you will know better know me in the future and that you will think a different way.

Best regards,
Jordi Canals