Strange Loading...

registered · Worker Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 192

Hello...

I've got a little problem on my site... The overall loading time is not bad... but the loading is strange... especailly on IE... The site doesn't display anything... you can only see the progress bar moving... Nothing displays it just loads... and only when it has all of the contents loaded the site appears...
Have any one seen such thing...

Here's a link to my site...

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:58 am

Well, you've got quite a few problems there.

The first problem being that your home page has over 2100 presentation compliance errors. A staggering number.

Next, you should note that some of your advertising blocks are out of bound of your nuke theme properties by being in some of 9 (yes, 9 frames) and are causing a significant lag.

Your current frame structure is causing the problem by forcing frame layouts and data to be fully loaded before displaying the content within.

This is why Frames should not be used with Nuke, especially as they aren't needed in the first place.

A div in many cases will do the same thing and it doesn't need to be in a frame.

Having 4 frames of off-site advertising images plus a popup, isn't helping matters either as while your "Page Generation" time may be low, that is merely how long it is taking to compile the Nuke portion, which is nothing in comparison to how long it is taking to compile and assemble the other frames, create the full structure and then send it to the browser. Your IE settings may also contribute to this depending on if they are setup to view partial information or if it is setup to wait for all of the data.

Just a heads-up.

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:09 pm

Quote:

2100 presentation compliance errors.

How can I test my site?

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:20 pm

Yours has only 1139 homepage compliance errors.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.curtishancock.net%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&verbose=1

If you want a comparison, put my url of http://64bit.us in the url box. That's what a domain should look like.

Your CSS can be validated at: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:17 pm

64bitguy wrote:

Well, you've got quite a few problems there.

The first problem being that your home page has over 2100 presentation compliance errors. A staggering number.

Next, you should note that some of your advertising blocks are out of bound of your nuke theme properties by being in some of 9 (yes, 9 frames) and are causing a significant lag.

Your current frame structure is causing the problem by forcing frame layouts and data to be fully loaded before displaying the content within.

This is why Frames should not be used with Nuke, especially as they aren't needed in the first place.

A div in many cases will do the same thing and it doesn't need to be in a frame.

Having 4 frames of off-site advertising images plus a popup, isn't helping matters either as while your "Page Generation" time may be low, that is merely how long it is taking to compile the Nuke portion, which is nothing in comparison to how long it is taking to compile and assemble the other frames, create the full structure and then send it to the browser. Your IE settings may also contribute to this depending on if they are setup to view partial information or if it is setup to wait for all of the data.

Just a heads-up.

Thanks for the reply... Smile

1st I don't know why... but I did the test on my site... and it showed 800 errors not 2100... But still I'll have to correct them...

Can you tell me how can I use div, and not use frames... Maybe a simple way to do a block like the one on the top of my site... The one "NOWE RECENZJE"... I couldn't figure out how to do souch thing... without using frames...

And about the offsite advertisement is a must... So this must stay...

Thanks again for your time... Smile

PS. How can I find these errors... ?? Where are they... ??

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:05 am

@CurtisHancock
Did you know this ?

Only 1 error and your page is is not Valid HTML 4.01 at validator.w3org.check.
My error is "document type does not allow element "P" here" ROTFL

I prefer to check my site also with:

http://watson.addy.com/
http://webxact.watchfire.com/scanform.aspx

And of course with every new block and modules you can get more and more validation errors on your site.Thats the reason why I´ prefer slim line.(I don´t need a hundred modules because our members are looking for information,dl and tips.)

If your site and your robots.txt is valid it´s better for the search engine spider and I quess also for your search engine ranking.

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 8:53 am

Susan.

Unfortunately, I only see a blog at your WWW site and not a Nuke domain, but even the blog has compliance errors Sad

In Nuke, the real trick is to make sure that you fix your blocks and modules to be compliant one at a time, but I have found that is essential to start by fixing theme errors so you can "see" the rest of the problems.

It does take time, but yes it can be done.

I have already created the very first compliant scroller for Nuke (the in-place scroller that you can see in my header and my collapsing forums blopck) and I am presently working on a marquee replacement for column scrolling (like a compliant version of what you would see in Raven's "Recommended Sites" block for example.

As for fixing the problems with the frames.... It's a tough issue in that you need to "Start" with something compliant before you can slap in all of the add-on and out-of-bounds functions operating at your domain.

I wish there was a magic bullet to tell you to "Do this", but there just isn't.

It's a situation where you have all of this stuff "combined" that is compounding the problems one on top of another.

If you started with a compliant baseline and started adding things after that, you could address them one at a time.

Wish I could be more help, but without having all of your code and rewriting everything from scratch it would be very difficult. Further, I don't really have the time to tackle such a projoect. Sad

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 9:13 am

The blog is an experiment and at the moment I´ve no time to work enough on my blog. But I PM you my url. You can check the index.php if you want.

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2005 3:19 am

64bitguy wrote:

Susan.

Unfortunately, I only see a blog at your WWW site and not a Nuke domain, but even the blog has compliance errors Sad

In Nuke, the real trick is to make sure that you fix your blocks and modules to be compliant one at a time, but I have found that is essential to start by fixing theme errors so you can "see" the rest of the problems.

It does take time, but yes it can be done.

I have already created the very first compliant scroller for Nuke (the in-place scroller that you can see in my header and my collapsing forums blopck) and I am presently working on a marquee replacement for column scrolling (like a compliant version of what you would see in Raven's "Recommended Sites" block for example.

As for fixing the problems with the frames.... It's a tough issue in that you need to "Start" with something compliant before you can slap in all of the add-on and out-of-bounds functions operating at your domain.

I wish there was a magic bullet to tell you to "Do this", but there just isn't.

It's a situation where you have all of this stuff "combined" that is compounding the problems one on top of another.

If you started with a compliant baseline and started adding things after that, you could address them one at a time.

Wish I could be more help, but without having all of your code and rewriting everything from scratch it would be very difficult. Further, I don't really have the time to tackle such a projoect. Sad

Thanks again for your reply... Smile

Maybe you can tell me how to hunt these errors... What are all those lines and columns in the validator...

Thanks...