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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:24 am Reply with quote

I can't seem to get the tabs to work. What's the secret?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:27 pm Reply with quote

In Mozilla, Ctrl-T opens a new tab. You can also right-click a link on a page and choose "Open Lin in New Tab". I imagine it's similar in FireFox. Also, there is a setting that controls whether the Tab bar is displayed when only one tab is open. There is an icon on the Tab bar to open a new tab (same as Ctrl-T).

One thing that's nice about tabbed browsing is that you bookmark (and open) a group of tabs.

EDIT: Ctrl-T worked in my old version of Firebird .6....
 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:04 pm Reply with quote

You can also double click the area where the tabs go.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:35 am Reply with quote

Tut! Tut! Raven haven't you read the README rofl

Sorry couldnt resist it. Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:19 am Reply with quote

Read it all. I know how to MANUALLY make them appear. I'm expecting to see 1 browser with every link/url adding another tab. Isn't tht the way it is supposed to work without pressing keys? Seems that there should be a default setting somewhere.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 12:35 pm Reply with quote

It would be nice if we could force all attempts to open new windows to open new tabs instead. But, I wouldn't want EVERY link to open in a new tab since I usually don't want to keep the current page open when clicking a link.

There is another preference in Mozilla (possibly FireFox, too) that lets you open a tab via Ctrl-Click on a link on a page (similar to right-click and Open Link in New Tab). I hadn't used this technique until I read this post - so thanks for encouraging me to learn something new... It's more efficient than the context menu approach, but lets me decide which links to open in new tabs and which to keep in the current one.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:29 pm Reply with quote

Click on Tools, Options, and you'll see how to set them in there I think Raven.

I'm just getting used to it myself actually lol
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:23 pm Reply with quote

Ok, I downloaded FF and tried it.

As far as tabs go, Opera is MUCH better.

It seems to me you have to tell FF to start using tabs. Opera opens using tabs.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:27 pm Reply with quote

Hehehe. A different default setting makes it "MUCH" better?

But, I did see another post (maybe yours, TheosEleos) that talked about Opera opening tabs instead of new windows. How does Opera handle that?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:52 pm Reply with quote

well, if it is a popup it adds another tab but puts it in the back.

Basically you never have another application of Opera running. Like with IE you have to alt+tab to change between web pages (or use your task bar). With Opera (or other tab browsers) you can be viewing multiple web sites with just a click of a tab.

Here is a screenshot for your review. Very Happy

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If I open a page with popups they will get a new tab but you never see the actual page.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:17 pm Reply with quote

I just read through this thread again and I am not sure if I really answered your question. Bang Head
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:45 pm Reply with quote

I must have done somthing right. Now FF has the tabs to start out with. Embarassed
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:03 pm Reply with quote

Thanks - that's exactly what I was looking for. That is a really nice feature - I wish Mozilla and / or FireFox had it. Unfortunately, Opera is based on IE, which means it has the same security issues as IE - but that's another discussion entirely... Thanks again for the heads up.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 8:14 pm Reply with quote

I get confused with security issues and IE. What is at risk when surfing with IE, or any browser for that matter?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:19 pm Reply with quote

There are many know flaws: here, and here, and, a direct recommendation to switch to something else here.

The problem is, some sites recommend switching without telling us that Avant and other "replacements" require IE. Some of these replacements claim to address certain security issues, but let's be realistic - if they didn't replace the IE functions, you have to ask, "Why?" The companies and organizations that support these browsers have a very small fraction of the resources that Microsoft does, and what they've created, though often quite functional and more usable that IE, are really more like addons than replacements.

But, the true replacements (e.g. Mozilla, FireFox and others that use the Gecko or other browser engines instead of IE's) also have flaws. When I look at Opera's website, I can't find any reference to requiring IE. I couldn't find any information about it's browser engine (other than a claim that it's the fastest and that it runs on non-Windows platforms like cellphones - whooptido!). It does have some nice features as we've already discussed, which I will look into further. My initial impression is that Mozilla / FireFox offers very nearly the same features for free.

After 20 years in the information technology business, I look at like this: When was the last time MS released a new version of IE? And how frequently are significant updates made to the alternatives? While MS rests on it laurels (in between putting out frequent security flaw fires), others are coming out with awesome (and more frequent) improvements like tabbed browing, built-in popup blocking, and better security features that can only be added to IE by third-party add-ons. With 90% of the market share, MS is the 800-lb gorilla that doesn't care about the 90-lb weaklings like FireFox. They got 90% by leveraging a virtual monopoly on desktop operating systems, not by providng better techology in the browser market. Here's a thought: I wonder how much more secure Windows would be if MS replaced IE and IIS with Mozilla and Apache? And, since they give away IE for FREE, where's the incentive to improve it?

I'm not anti-MS - I think it's copied and acquired some great technology and marketed it better than anyone. But I am pro-me. Mozilla gives me a safer, more productive browser. Isn't that what computers are for in the first place?
 
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:40 pm Reply with quote

Great information! Thank you so much for sharing it with me.

I agree that IE is way poast due for a quality update. I don't see MS doing anying much with it since most people use it and write sites with mostly IE in mind.

I don't have the slightest idea if Opera needs IE to run. I like using it and have had a very good experience.
 
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