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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 2:56 pm Reply with quote

Have you read this http://www.nukecops.com/article2146.html

We want money for nuke security development:
Knights will be limited to 100 spots at $50 each. Bards will be limited to 250 at $25 each. Minstrels are limitless at $10.

How much money is that for paul?
100 times 50 dollars = 5000 dollars
250 times 25 dollars = 6250 dollars
limitless times 10 dollars = A lot of money
That atleast 11250 dollars for Paul aka Zhen-Xjell

WOW Zhen-Xjell is following FB kaching!$ Money Train



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After reading the comments from some of the membership and making us laugh I've agreed to release the application as early as tonight and late as Sunday. I'm working on the internal documentation and running some last minute tests. I'd like to say a couple things first please...

Fortress.cc (currently a work-in-progress) has been obtained to continue developing secure solutions for PHP websites. This includes my favorite: PHP-Nuke, and then extend to products like Postnuke. However, in order to continue web development in the security field we'll need all the help we can obtain from you our members. We'll need to beef up our services and pipe by ensuring the bad guys don't get us.

On Nuke Cops and external sites it has been brought to our attention that folks love our work and would love to help see us continue the development. Fortress(TM) is such a unique security application that we're giving it its own portal. Please support us, such that we can continue distributing tools to secure all PHP websites.

With the launch of the upcoming next version of Fortress(tm) we'll be taking donations. Each donation will receive a special mark of distinction showing the public of your support. Three classes will be available:


Knights

Bards

Minstrels

Each membership class will have its own page of distinction as well as a spot in the file distribution.

Knights will be limited to 100 spots at $50 each. Bards will be limited to 250 at $25 each. Minstrels are limitless at $10.

Help the cause! Help us continue developing and releasing premiere security products, content, and support for Fortress(tm) and the next generation of security software for PHP web sites.

Its our hope that with the next version release we can start a new era with your donations to bring you a full line of security products with Fortress(tm) being our staple.

Donate today to "paul@computercops.biz" via PayPal and reference this article. We'll start crediting you in the class you pick right away.

If PayPal doesn't work for you, send us a check or money order to:

Computer Cops, LLC
ATTN: Paul Laudanski
PO Box 325
Mount Laurel, NJ 08054
U.S.A.

Make checks payable to: Computer Cops, LLC.

Next up... Our Long Awaited and Beloved Fortress(TM).
 
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sixonetonoffun
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Joined: Jan 02, 2003
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2004 6:49 pm Reply with quote

I won't throw rocks at the idea of a "Premium" based product. (I hope Allovons getting his cut it was sposed to be his baby remember?).

Paul missed more opportunities like this in the past then any of us could imagine. In the beginning it was never about money until it began to cost money. He made several remarks later to the fact that this is what he wants to be doing and wouldn't it be great if we could all make a living ... which many of us thought was a great idea so we continued to give more and more of our time to NC freely. The funny thing is nothing came of it while I was there. In fact while AI, Chatserv, Raven and others including myself were there Paul most often was not. Clearly he took advantage of us all and let us build his site for him while he roostered around talking about things, great things like "TrackBack" which never amounted to anything (Oh wait we'll see something like it in a "Premium" version of Fortress). Letting other projects he started like "Journal" and "GT" go half done and basically in pieces. Both of which have been picked up by other sites now and he's PO'd about that too. Ok well DOH!

At one time I was lead to believe we'd (in his name of course) be opening a hosting company among other things. Where for our (NC staff) time and services we'd at the minimum recieve Premium hosting services in return for our time invested in running his support site. Those whose talents and contributions were greater could actually go on into the upper echelons and become actual shareholders.

After seeing that my role in all that would be somewhere in the work for hosting category I chose to leave the actual NC staff. Hey hosting was cheap in the current market at the time. I think I was paying something like $35 a year for 500mbs and unlimited domains and databases. Even as a novice my thought was my time per day = more then $35 a year.

Some of these folks support questions go way beyond simple installation and configuration. Sometimes it takes setting up a test site and working out the specifics just to answer what may appear to be a simple request. But hey its fun and joyous and usually if I can find the time I'll take on the occasional question from heck like that.

These are the sorts of things that have lead me from time to time question the direction of the NC site and its leadership. Don't let all the fluff fool ya folks there is more beneath the surface there then doing great things for the sake of helping others. Which is another topic ZX likes to mention how he's such a great volunteer and all. Geez lets not forget even volunteer firefighters and EMT's get paid. The volunteer phrase has more to do with funding and tax advantages then it does the actual members.

There is no natural conclusion to this comment. I hope people can take some knowledge from it. For myself there can be some closure through the disclosing of the facts, feelings and emotions involved beyond the wall of fluff being presented at NC.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 10:01 am Reply with quote

HitsFan take this chit out of ma face

peoples like Chatserv,Raven deserves to earn money more than him Evil or Very Mad
 
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Raven
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Joined: Aug 27, 2002
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2004 10:04 am Reply with quote

Please call BR-549 and ask for Six. He handles all donations Laughing
 
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